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I think we should drop the term "old men". It's like we've given up and don't want young radio amateurs, at least that's what I hear. And other young people probably also.

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@dc7ia OM and YL (Young Lady) get on my nerves too. I don't know if it's internationally used, but in the UK a lot of people use XYL to mean 'wife'.

Time to dump such anachronisms if we are going to get people who don't live in the 1950s interested in amateur radio.

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@ak It's the same with XYL here. A few years ago, I jokingly described myself and my friends as a XYM.

@dc7ia People talk such utter shit on the radio a lot of the time. I turn off if someone starts rambling on about their XYL or saying 'hi hi' at the end of a sentence. Fine on CW where every letter counts, but it makes you sound like a nob when you use it on voice.

@dc7ia See also useless jargon like "the personal here is Bob". What's wrong with "my name is Bob"?

@ak @dc7ia Never heard the "the personal here is" thing, but I only had QSOs in German so far. Most of the time I hear people use either 'Bob at the microphone here' or 'Here is Bob'.
I refuse to use the OM, YL and XYL terms.
Okay i use ON ironically to I talk about some grumpy old men that doesn't want any of those youngsters with their cheap radios on 'their' frequency.

@dc7ia Ment OM but my smartphone doesn't speak radio jargon yet. :D

By the way the worst shit found transmitted over radio so far is by a local group on 2m. They either rant about 'newly licenced hams' (as that would imply something about their skill), women or refugees and the last two topics regularly take a sharp turn to the political right.

@sebastian Just report it. They'll have to pay fines or lose their licence.

@ak @dc7ia We can also use "located in" instead if QTH. Maybe we should work on a new best practice guide..?

@dc7ia People spelling stuff out is an annoyance too.

"The personal here is Bill. That's Bravo. India. Lima. Lima. The QTH is Liverpool. That's Lima, India, Victor, Echo..."

[AK goes off and does something else for ten minutes]

@dc7ia I once had a 40m contact with someone doing a special event station in Llanfair­pwllgwyngyll­gogery­chwyrn­drobwll­llan­tysilio­gogo­goch and asked them to spell it phonetically. 😭

@ak @dc7ia I have to do that, as my name isn't common in Germany and people don't understand it most of the time :(

@ak @dc7ia It's silly on VHF but I love it when people do that on HF. I'm often battling a high noise floor and lots of Australian amateurs like to settle down in regional towns with silly names I've never heard of. :)

@ak @dc7ia It’s nearly impossible for me to mentally compute some non-standard phonetics fast enough. The “radio Zanzibar Japan” sort of dx phone usage. So frustrating. It would be nice if people stuck to icao phonetics for the first run, at least.

@ak @dc7ia I don’t mind the old ham jargon on the whole, and appreciate it as “local colour”, but do wince a little about the OM/XYL stuff... The jokes (hihi) about how “the XYL’s will have hormonal issues if we put up another antenna!” And such. I am part of a “YL group” in the USA, and we all sort of sigh at the old boys club atmosphere. It be what it be. 🤷🏽‍♀️

I tend to use OC (old chap), especially on digital text modes, as a gender neutral option!

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can you check the outbound mail queues for #radiosocial ? I attempted to sign up as @w8emv but never got an ack. Thanks!

@emv Hi - many thanks for letting me know, I'll take a look. In the meantime I've confirmed @w8emv so you can log in :)

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Now I'm getting "Invalid Email or password." which might be that I typed something in wrong, but I doubt it as that's what the browser saved when I set it up.